Need to start doing Meth

[WiCKeD]

Not entirely sure, but it feels like I am having either belt slippage or some minor detonation problems and want to make sure the engine is running safe. Right now, I am hitting around 7-8lbs of boost and not looking to push it to anything crazy beyond that... Goal is just to settle things down, so I do not want to spend much more money.

As far as meth goes, is there really a big difference between the $190 Coolingmist boost-based system vs something like the Stage 2 Snow Performance or SMC variable systems that alot of Dakota guys are using? Edit: If the variable systems save me from having to spend more money on washer fluid and having to fill up more often, I am willing to spend the extra dough.

Wraith - I know you do meth! Not sure who else, but any advice would be appreciated.

[RINGWRAITH]

Originally Posted by WiCKeD

Not entirely sure, but it feels like I am having some minor detonation problems and want to make sure the engine is running safe. Right now, I am hitting around 7-8lbs of boost and not looking to push it to anything crazy beyond that... Goal is just to settle things down, so I do not want to spend much more money.

As far as meth goes, is there really a big difference between the $190 Coolingmist boost-based system vs something like the Stage 2 Snow Performance or SMC variable systems?

Wraith - I know you do meth! Not sure who else, but any advice would be appreciated.

Needle and the damage done!!!!
Snow perf-boo! Had hose probs, injector leaks and now the MAP trigger took a sh!t....DWAG, HERE!!!!!!!:
http://www.labontemotorsports.com/store/index.php

They helped me with parts...turns out they helped Snow!!!!!
I'll get some pics up....

[Ninergrad]

You sure it's not your tune wicked? I mean meth is good, i will be doing that after I get my KB running as a safety precaution. You see anything weird on AF gauge?

[WiCKeD]

So no on the Snow Performance, eh? Wraith, you are trying to make me spend more money... The Labonte kit looks good. Just trying to figure out what makes one of these kits better than another.

Nah, nothing weird. Was noticing fewer problems before I went down to the smaller pulley, although they were always there. It may be just belt slippage, but I don't think so. Went to a smaller belt, so it is tighter than ever. I could probably have the timing pulled back, but keeping things cool sounds like a better option.

[RINGWRAITH]

Originally Posted by ninergrad

You sure it's not your tune wicked? I mean meth is good, i will be doing that after I get my KB running as a safety precaution. You see anything weird on AF gauge?

It gives u an octane boost and the Nitromethane THAT U SHOULD ADD
carries its own oxygen!!!

[Saleen4971]

cocaine is a hell of a drug, try that first.

[Ninergrad]

Originally Posted by RINGWRAITH

It gives u an octane boost and the Nitromethane THAT U SHOULD ADD
carries its own oxygen!!!

I actually have an idea bout that. Best thing is you get to keep your windshield fluid. I live in Seattle, I can't really live without mine
But I need to materialize it to life in order to explain.
OK maybe I can explain.
1) mount a aftermarket water overflow tank near a radiator. There's plenty of space, you could do it where Ross mounted his tranny filter(if he would've moved his thread you would know exactly what i am talking about ) You can move your radiator fluid lvl sensor too if you like, but.
2) Use the stock radiator overflow tank. make sure you seal all the holes etc. There is also a piece of tubing on the side of the tank that needs to be cut off and plastic welder/soldering iron with correct attachment to cover up the holes.
3) You can use the low coolant sensor with Meth in the tank, when it gets low, it will just flash coolant low. Now I know not exactly perfect, but hey beats buying and installing more gauges.
4) rest will be pretty much the same, but since the tank is so close to intake, you won't have to run too long of a hose. Plus you should still have some space to mount the pump

That's what i was planning to do to mine. I am wondering if there a way to piece this together?
You know like pump, obviously spray controller based on boost, hose, new overflow tank, injectors of a sort I don't know what they use.
I think it should work.

[RINGWRAITH]

Originally Posted by ninergrad

I actually have an idea bout that. Best thing is you get to keep your windshield fluid. I live in Seattle, I can't really live without mine
But I need to materialize it to life in order to explain.
OK maybe I can explain.
1) mount a aftermarket water overflow tank near a radiator. There's plenty of space, you could do it where Ross mounted his tranny filter(if he would've moved his thread you would know exactly what i am talking about ) You can move your radiator fluid lvl sensor too if you like, but.
2) Use the stock radiator overflow tank. make sure you seal all the holes etc. There is also a piece of tubing on the side of the tank that needs to be cut off and plastic welder/soldering iron with correct attachment to cover up the holes.
3) You can use the low coolant sensor with Meth in the tank, when it gets low, it will just flash coolant low. Now I know not exactly perfect, but hey beats buying and installing more gauges.
4) rest will be pretty much the same, but since the tank is so close to intake, you won't have to run too long of a hose. Plus you should still have some space to mount the pump

That's what i was planning to do to mine. I am wondering if there a way to piece this together?
You know like pump, obviously spray controller based on boost, hose, new overflow tank, injectors of a sort I don't know what they use.
I think it should work.

Wow got a lot to explain here....you can use the windshield washer reservoir and all the low fluid level stuff will work, the boost juice is almost the same mixture as the regular windshield washer fluid is, in fact it can be used with no ill effects......now the kits: snow provides a reservoir tank that can be mounted anywhere u choose(hillybilly=cheap overflow tank from auto store 10skins) the pump is a 140 psi adjustable..(hillbilly=E-Bay) The hose is available like the spray nozzle from Labonte Motorsports at a resonable price, its cheap.....The trigger could be any MAP or boost controller with a signal circuit hooked to a relay that would trigger the pump..........Adjustable pump and nozzle sizes will make it easy to dial it in, will take say about 4 or 5 runs at WOT, you keep dumping in meth till you get a bog( combustion quench) then back it down and adj. the timming up till all is well!!!
The result: A Nitroed Commie on Meth!
Sounds good to me!

[scjeep4.7HO]

My Snow kit works ok. A few leaks but I took care of them.

The SDCE kit is the chit.

[NoTime]

I have been looking at what I will need to get for my SC build on the 5.9. My buddy with a diesel has the Labonte system and I have been looking at the ISG-10 Boost activated system by them http://www.labontemotorsports.com/st...w/ISG-10B.html How do you figure out what nozzels to get with them??
I comes stock with M5 ( 315 ml/min ) and M7 ( 441 ml/min ) is that a good starting point?

[scjeep4.7HO]

IMHO too big of a nozzle.

[scjeep4.7HO]

Just looked at the link from labonte. It's th same damn thing as SNOW.

[Dmntxn77]

Originally Posted by Saleen4971

cocaine is a hell of a drug, try that first.

Ha ha.... A little Rick James quote. I thought the same thing when I read the title..

[WiCKeD]

They all seem like pretty much the same thing to me... There is really not much to it, unless you start comparing the more expensive kits. Only things that really vary are whether they use check valve or solenoid, how they measure boost, nozzle quality and some of the safety features.

Going to give the Coolingmist kit a shot. It's cheap and I don't need anything fancy. Lifetime warranty and they allow upgrades. They recommended to go with a 500cc nozzle for 485RWHP.

[scjeep4.7HO]

I have my opion about nozzle size. You can run a huge nozzle but al you really be doing is eating up meth like no tomorrow.

[RINGWRAITH]

Remember, U tune nozzle size with pump pressure........with no quench....the best upgrade to me would be the dual nozzles........

[scjeep4.7HO]

I think dual nozzles is a waste unless that's the only way you can keep from knocking.

If your running lots of nitro in it dual nozzles probably good thing but if you have straight meth more isn't always better.

[RINGWRAITH]

Originally Posted by scjeep4.7HO

I think dual nozzles is a waste unless that's the only way you can keep from knocking.

maybe, but I'm thinkin on doing just that.....I have had probs. with the snow set up, I'm liking the progressive style of the Labonte stage two......

[WiCKeD]

How often are you having to refill? Are you using the stage I or stage II snow kit?

[scjeep4.7HO]

I have a universal that is now the equivalent of a stageII. I have upgraded to a MAF style meth controller and I have tried up to the 375ML nozzle. At that level it can go through a 2 quart resevoir really really quick.

[RINGWRAITH]

Originally Posted by scjeep4.7HO

I have a universal that is now the equivalent of a stageII. I have upgraded to a MAF style meth controller and I have tried up to the 375ML nozzle. At that level it can go through a 2 quart resevoir really really quick.

ROMF....Now Nitromethane????

[WiCKeD]

Hmmm... What about boost settings? ...and what is your max boost?

[scjeep4.7HO]

14# of boost. You have to really see how your particular car does with boost since there is no cookie cutout solution. Put it on, I would start with the middle nozzle like 225ml. If you hear any knock what so ever go to a larger size. No knock I went down to a smaller size to conserve meth since it alone is not really the power producer but more about allowing you to run a more aggressive tune.

[WiCKeD]

Well the Coolingmist was delivered in a day and I have it all hooked up, except for the power/ignition wires. Only problem with it? Boost level is impossible to set! There are no numbers on the relay or any instructions to interpret voltage=boost. Wtf? They e-mailed some ghetto instructions to use a hand pump, tire gauge and listen for a click. Does not seem practical for setting or if I ever change my config. If I had to do it again, I probably would have gone with the Devil's Own Stage 1 kit.

So if I want to be able to know what boost level it is set at, the next best option seems to be either getting the Devil's Own adjustable pressure switch or the Labonte VC-25 progressive controller.

Would still like to know at what level of boost you guys start injecting... Would think it would be relative to my max boost, like 50-75% of 8PSI?