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Do any of y'all have any experience with these? I've gave both the component set up and the two-way design a listen to many times over against other makes/brands, and for my musical taste and budget, I can't find anything that sounds better to my ears. Just wondering.....
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i have heard the alpine subs, never heard the type R components.
i absolutely LVOE alpine stuff tho. decks, speakers, subs, amps, all of it is top notch IMO
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I outfitted my old '84 Trans Am with Alpine 2-way 4"x6" dash speakers, Infinity 2-way 6"x9" pillar speakers, and if I remember correctly, a Fosgate twin 8" 2-way hatchback box down in the cargo area (firing up against the hatchback glass). The dash speakers were powered by the receiver, the Infinity's and the box by an Alpine 4-channel amp. Within a week the amp fried and was replaced by the audio shop with the same exact model. Soon thereafter, it fried as well! Everything was hooked up correctly (this shop had a very good reputation for quality work) and the guy who did the install was baffled to say the least. The third time around I went with a Fosgate 4-channel amp and had no problems whatsoever after that. Well, not until the car was stolen several years later from work and the entire system ripped out before the cops recovered it lol! Thank God for full-coverage insurance!!! ![]() Back to the point. As for amp selection, I'm not sure if I'm going to go with the JBL 6-channel I've been looking at or possibly a pair of Fosgates or even Alpine (prior experience notwithstanding). Though right now my main focus is saving the $$$ for my new engine. Hehehehehehehehehe...................
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I've got alpine type S i'm pretty sure and they sound great. Sony Xplod head unit the aplines are in the doors running through the factory amp. still need to do the sound bar with componants and do the dash tweets. Don't know what the diff is between the s, r type maybe the r's can handle more power. But love the sound.
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Have never had a lower grade speaker sound better than the supposed next level upgrade. Here's where I'm getting at..... Went back to one of the stereo shops over the weekend with one of my favorite cd's to give another listen to multiple speakers being driven by the same head unit and amp for a fair comparison (head unit is the Sony GT-630UI, which is the same as I already have and love, and the amp was a Fosgate P-400). Strangely enough, both the component and the two-way Type S's sounded better than the Type R's; much better bass response and crisper highs. Just for comparison, here's how a few of the other major brands sounded in a quick summary (all 6.5" or 6.75" speakers)... -Infinity 6022I: Muddy, overbearing bass. -Kenwood 1682IE: Entirely too much midrange response, lack of bass. -Sony GT1626A: Decent sound but lacking hard-hitting punch considering the power supplied. |
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I also like that you can point the tweeters up towards your ears, they do have a nice even sound, and fill the jeep nicely. I had them in y 93 GC running off the deck then put them in my niner when I got it and run them off the factory amp, I couldn't believe the difference. I also have a 500 watt JVC sub-amp with a Phinix Gold x-over, and 12" JVC sub.
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Allow me to please quickly ask a question. What's the big deal about Focal speakers? I read good reviews about them but the quantity of reviews I can find is extremely limited. Just curious and as always, thanks again for any and all info...
Another small (lol) note..... As for power consideration, I'm really undecided how much I'm going to push right this moment. The amps I tested on them the other week were both listed as 50W RMS x 4 channels; the Alpine MRP-F300 and the Fosgate P400-4 (in that order as well). I wasn't able to see where the crossover points or gain had been set at, but the Fosgate kicked much harder than the Alpine, and pretty much knocked Alpine out for amp selection for supposedly being equal power output. Anyway, something in the power range between 50-100W RMS/Channel is most likely what I'll be getting, provided I can crank the volume loudly and not distort. I'm also considering the JL Audio G6600 since that would allow me to only need but one amp for the three sets of speakers in here (I'm not concerned with a sub at this time, if ever). As for sound quality, be it by additional amp power or just receiver, the Type S speakers sounded better. I apologize for not mentioning that earlier, btw. Reading reviews from the various audio sites online, the Type R's seem to be a really good speaker, especially with a lot of power backing it. I'm just going off of my observation from what I heard, especially since I listen to stuff different than most people I know (death metal and hardcore)! I prefer just enough (tight) bass hitting for the kick drums and bass guitar, moderate midrange for the guitars w/o making the already lowered tuning and distortion muddy, and very "high" highs for the snare, high hat, ride, and cymbals. So, with all that said, which would y'all prefer and why between the aforementioned speakers (Alpine S vs Alpine R), ran as a component set-up in front door/dash and rear sound bar, then two-ways in rear doors. And then for amp(s), the following... -JL Audio G6600 (55W x 6 @ 12.5v/75W x 6 @14.4v, S/N Ratio 104dB, THD 1%, Freq, Response 10-25k Hz) -Fosgate P400-4 (50W x 4 @ 14.4v, 85dB, 1%, 20-20k Hz) -Fosgate T400-4 (60W x 4 @ 14.4v, 85 dB, 0.5%, 20-20k Hz) -Fosgate T600-4 (100W x 4 @ 14.4v, 85 dB, 0.5%, 20-20k Hz) Any other good, high quality amps y'all can recommend that compare to these w/o breaking the bank please add into your comments. I'm only listing these since I've never heard a Fosgate-powered system that didn't rock AND sound clean, and JL Audio seems to have a good reputation as well. Thanks y'all! More later..... |
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I have Type S in my Laredo (6.5" in doors, 5.25" in 5.9 soundbar) powered by the stock amp and headunit, and I really like how they've performed so far. Sounds like you already made up your mind, but I think you made a good choice.
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i think ull find the type r components were underpowered and thats why they sounded worse then the s and the infinitys must have been hooked up wrong cause infinity has horrible bass they are mainly for highs and mids and usually crystal clear
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