Broke my dash gauges installing indiglo

5.9_Racer · 03-05-2009, 07:12 AM

Was wondering for those that have done an Indiglo gauge swap out how you performed the install since there aren't any instructions in the kit..... or at least not in mine. Were you able to integrate the dimmer into the factory dimmer to eliminate having 2 dimmers? (cleaner look I think)

I ended up messing mine up and I am afraid I will need to get another dash gauge cluster.

BTW: If anyone has a set they are willing the part with, I am interested.

I removed the needles, which was a bad mistake on my part.... partly due to some nyqil and not thinking about it right.

Saleen4971 · 03-05-2009, 09:11 AM

removing needles = busted gauges

im not sure how the wiring works for those, but could you not grab a signal off of the radio dimmer??

5.9_Racer · 03-05-2009, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saleen4971

removing needles = busted gauges

im not sure how the wiring works for those, but could you not grab a signal off of the radio dimmer??

yeah that was not a smart thing to do on my part... luckily I found a gauge set up the road (50miles away) for $60.00. I called the stealership and they discontinued the gauge cluster a while back.

As for getting a dimmer signal, I am going to use the dimmer/light control module. The indiglo light package comes with 4 gauge templates (indiglo gauges) and a control module, which has 3 wires coming off it (4 harness plugs, dimmer controller, and power lead (red/black)).

I can get a pinout from the dealer/service department, which will give the correct power terminals on the factory dimmer module to power the indiglo gauges when the lights are turned on, vs having them constantly on.... THen I can strip the insulation from the dimmer controller (hoping there is just 2 wires).... these should be easy to match up to the factory dimmer and just solder onto the circuit or crimp into the factory harness.

As for attaching the new gauges, I wont take the needles off this time.. nor will I lift off the old (black) gauges, but double stick tape the new ones in place.

I'll do a writeup on it when I get my new cluster.

5.9_Racer · 03-05-2009, 11:36 AM

here's what the ebayer sent me after I supplied a comment about no instructions..

It isn't exactly like ours, (XJ instructions), but will give the general idea.... Also doesn't go into steps about how to integrate into the factory dimmer like I want to. And I also believe the ZJ has separate bulbs for the other dash items, so you could still remove just the dash lights for the gauges (7 bulbs I believe).

darknine · 03-05-2009, 02:27 PM

on my old 94 i used the dimmer wire from the stock radio harness since the aftermarket deck i was using didnt have a dimmer. worked perfectly gauges came on when my lights did. also i removed all the needles with pliers and put them all back on afterwards and i had no problems my gauges worked perfectly afterwards.??

5.9_Racer · 03-05-2009, 02:40 PM

thinking the nyquil I took for a headcold is the variable that caused the issue(s).
Some work... some do not. Since I can't start the engine, I do not know if the computer is able to reset the gauges...
Cause when the ignition is on, 5 of the gauges register incorrectly now.

Saleen4971 · 03-06-2009, 09:39 AM

shoot me your email address, or AIM SN if you have one. when i get home later tonight i can shoot you the correct sections of the FSM if ya want/need em

darknine · 03-06-2009, 01:54 PM

well then take the needles off and put them back where they should be start jeep go get a full tank and put that needle at full the alt start her up and put it at 14 oil press wherever for speed go find one of those speed boxes or ask a cop for assistance or have someone ride beside you level out and tell u what speed ur doing. and tach get a digital readout timing gun

5.2zjkid · 03-06-2009, 04:16 PM

wonder how that would go asking a cop to tell you how fast your going . usally when they tell ya gonna have a pice of paper to tell ya to .

Saleen4971 · 03-06-2009, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5.2zjkid

wonder how that would go asking a cop to tell you how fast your going . usally when they tell ya gonna have a pice of paper to tell ya to .

lol

"im gonna go past you at what i think is 90mph. clock me, and tell me if its right?"

5.9_Racer · 03-07-2009, 01:31 PM

I got my new/used set of gauges and babied them last night, so new indiglo is installed, just need to finish up with some double stick take and notch out a place for the wires to fit, then will start on the modification for the dimmer integration.... of this will all be after I get my engine to crank.

03-05-2009, 07:12 AM	#1
5.9_Racer Fireheadman Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Denver Area Posts: 1,770 Rep Power: 23	Broke my dash gauges installing indiglo Was wondering for those that have done an Indiglo gauge swap out how you performed the install since there aren't any instructions in the kit..... or at least not in mine. Were you able to integrate the dimmer into the factory dimmer to eliminate having 2 dimmers? (cleaner look I think) I ended up messing mine up and I am afraid I will need to get another dash gauge cluster. BTW: If anyone has a set they are willing the part with, I am interested. I removed the needles, which was a bad mistake on my part.... partly due to some nyqil and not thinking about it right. __________________ Current: 1998 Deep Slate - 5.9L ZJ 410 cu in Stroker (6.7L) SuperCharged All Forged Scat Bottom, Everything replaced up top. V1 T-Trim SC. UPGRADES from KOLAK, KeithBlack, KRC, APS, EDGE, CompCams, Martin Saine, MSD, Moroso, Aeroquip, Turbonetics, and myself...etc etc Coming soon.... MSaine Race Tranny w/TransBrake & R3 Block and maybe W9 heads (449cu ci???) Dyno Run #2 FWHP @ 525 HP / RWHP @ 437 HP Past: 92 MJ --> 89 XJ --> 99 WJ --> 92 YJ [RIP] --> 98 ZJ [RIP] --> 05 TJ If you want to get the details on my buildup, pics, writeups....etc. CLICK HERE Or here for my build thread....Click Here

03-05-2009, 09:11 AM	#2
Saleen4971 Gerbil Lover Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 4,885 Rep Power: 16	removing needles = busted gauges im not sure how the wiring works for those, but could you not grab a signal off of the radio dimmer?? __________________ Ross, aka fagotron. 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited ML Headers - Thunderbolt Metallic Cat - 3" Mag catback - EBC Brakes w/ drilled Rotors - 4bbl M1 - Vortech 12psi - FUBAR'd trans & "2900" stall - Summit CD Box - Addco & Hellwig Sways - Poly Bushings - H&R Springs - Grabber UHP Tires - Alpine/Infinity Stereo - FX-R BiXenon Retrofit

03-05-2009, 02:27 PM	#5
darknine aero brick Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: davenport,ia Posts: 1,063 Rep Power: 3	on my old 94 i used the dimmer wire from the stock radio harness since the aftermarket deck i was using didnt have a dimmer. worked perfectly gauges came on when my lights did. also i removed all the needles with pliers and put them all back on afterwards and i had no problems my gauges worked perfectly afterwards.?? __________________ a.k.a the aerodynamic brick. dark slate niner gun metal ultrastars, aem intake, edelbrock headers waiting install. 93/94/95 5.2l scrapped slate 5.9l sold platinum 5.9l storage slate 5.9l fire totaled platinum 5.9l loaning out other platinum 5.9l: mike leach headers, mopar ecu, k and n CAI. alpine/ infinity system. pending kennebell install

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03-05-2009, 11:36 AM	#4
5.9_Racer Fireheadman Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Denver Area Posts: 1,770 Rep Power: 23	here's what the ebayer sent me after I supplied a comment about no instructions.. It isn't exactly like ours, (XJ instructions), but will give the general idea.... Also doesn't go into steps about how to integrate into the factory dimmer like I want to. And I also believe the ZJ has separate bulbs for the other dash items, so you could still remove just the dash lights for the gauges (7 bulbs I believe).

03-05-2009, 02:40 PM	#6
5.9_Racer Fireheadman Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Denver Area Posts: 1,770 Rep Power: 23	thinking the nyquil I took for a headcold is the variable that caused the issue(s). Some work... some do not. Since I can't start the engine, I do not know if the computer is able to reset the gauges... Cause when the ignition is on, 5 of the gauges register incorrectly now.

03-06-2009, 09:39 AM	#7
Saleen4971 Gerbil Lover Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 4,885 Rep Power: 16	shoot me your email address, or AIM SN if you have one. when i get home later tonight i can shoot you the correct sections of the FSM if ya want/need em

03-06-2009, 01:54 PM	#8
darknine aero brick Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: davenport,ia Posts: 1,063 Rep Power: 3	well then take the needles off and put them back where they should be start jeep go get a full tank and put that needle at full the alt start her up and put it at 14 oil press wherever for speed go find one of those speed boxes or ask a cop for assistance or have someone ride beside you level out and tell u what speed ur doing. and tach get a digital readout timing gun

03-06-2009, 04:16 PM	#9
5.2zjkid illiterate sumamabitch Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,279 Rep Power: 13	wonder how that would go asking a cop to tell you how fast your going . usally when they tell ya gonna have a pice of paper to tell ya to .

03-07-2009, 01:31 PM	#11
5.9_Racer Fireheadman Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Denver Area Posts: 1,770 Rep Power: 23	I got my new/used set of gauges and babied them last night, so new indiglo is installed, just need to finish up with some double stick take and notch out a place for the wires to fit, then will start on the modification for the dimmer integration.... of this will all be after I get my engine to crank.