Pull the a/c compressor?

Jeepkid · 03-03-2009, 10:26 PM

I dunno what to do guys.. up here in washington it doesnt get unbearable with the heat.. but it sure is nice to have the cold air..

Anyways

My ac compressor clutch went tits up early last year.. and the clutch is like 100 bucks reman.. and a new compressor with clutch is like 300..

I could most likely snag a compressor clutch from a junkyard cheap telling them its a pulley or something i dunno...

But the major problem is the damn compressor isnt like any other v8 jeeps ive seen.. i actually spotted a clutch on a minivan and tore it all the way down to find out i didnt have the damn snap ring pliers so i had to abandon the clutch..

Ditch the compressor and all the ac or find the clutch..

I have a buddy at a shop with a ac machine that i can use for free so no big deal with all that etc..

Ninergrad · 03-03-2009, 11:06 PM

So you need a new compressor? You know mine hasn't been hooked up for a while, really haven't had much need. Though now that baby Bella is getting bigger I might need to figure something out to fix it, can't be cookin my only kid.

Jpmag360 · 03-03-2009, 11:10 PM

I don't mind the heat, but I hate the humidity...sucks when your thighs are sticking to the leather lol.
I'm keeping my air.

Jeepkid · 03-03-2009, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NINERGRAD

So you need a new compressor? You know mine hasn't been hooked up for a while, really haven't had much need. Though now that baby Bella is getting bigger I might need to figure something out to fix it, can't be cookin my only kid.

Yea my boys 4 so he can just roll the window down.. matter a fact thats a huge fight we always have.. he wants the windows down and the damn madagascar move it song blasting... play that stopped at the mall bus stop light.. ugh embarrasing.. cus they cant see the kid..

Let me know my same buddy that does the paint has the machine we can use it or i have a can of refrigerant

GrandHokie98 · 03-04-2009, 05:04 AM

I like to move it move it. You like to move it move it. We like to.....MOVE IT!!

to stay half on topic, i couldnt live without A/C

Saleen4971 · 03-04-2009, 05:22 AM

its a bad idea. ask me how i know, lol.

removing your A/C doesnt just get rid of your cold air. it ruins your defroster. whenever your defroster is on, the A/C is on to dry out the air.

i say dont do it.

but if you do, i need one of your A/C lines, lol

Jeepkid · 03-04-2009, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saleen4971

its a bad idea. ask me how i know, lol.

removing your A/C doesnt just get rid of your cold air. it ruins your defroster. whenever your defroster is on, the A/C is on to dry out the air.

i say dont do it.

but if you do, i need one of your A/C lines, lol

ac compressor clutch doesnt work.. so ac doesnt work..

Saleen4971 · 03-04-2009, 12:27 PM

soooooo.........i swear i can read........

sloZJ · 03-04-2009, 02:26 PM

ditch the compressor...get more power. but if u want it u can have mine...im ditchin it. just pay shipping

Jeepkid · 03-04-2009, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sloZJ

ditch the compressor...get more power. but if u want it u can have mine...im ditchin it. just pay shipping

just want the compressor clutch... its the smalle part inside..

sloZJ · 03-04-2009, 08:13 PM

y not just replace the whole thing

5.2zjkid · 03-08-2009, 10:17 AM

get smaller belt ac . only people that complain about ac is when ya have girls in the car. i forgt the part number but someone has it .

Saleen4971 · 03-08-2009, 11:53 AM

i can try to find the length. i had a non-AC belt for a while

Ninergrad · 03-08-2009, 04:19 PM

Noone knows the part number for non AC belt? isn't it written right on it?

Saleen4971 · 03-08-2009, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninergrad

Noone knows the part number for non AC belt? isn't it written right on it?

the problem is, i have NEVER found an actual listing for a length or part number. i can look tomorrow - the lights in my garage dont work, and its treacherous in there even during the day

Ninergrad · 03-08-2009, 04:23 PM

I gotcha, man there were several threads on JU about this, but no answers...

Saleen4971 · 03-08-2009, 04:27 PM

yep. ill do my best to get the P/N

Glitch · 03-08-2009, 05:47 PM

You can always do what I do and just go to any parts place and be like...i need a belt a lot shorter than this. and then try the belt out, then bring it right back "nope to small" then you generally have an idea within a few inches of what you need. usually get it done in 2 trips or less.

Jeepkid · 03-08-2009, 06:02 PM

well you can actually bypass the compressor with just a belt.. if i remember looking at it you can just run with compressor in place.. so go to the store and swap belts with a niner and no clutch fan is like a 20 second job

Z88Z · 03-08-2009, 06:36 PM

So.... it's not as easy as ordering a belt by asking for one from a non-AC Dodge truck?

I thought the Dodge front end setup was the same as ours.

I don't know if I've ever heard of non AC ZJ from the factory, especially later models but I figure finding Dodge trucks without AC is more likely.

Are ZJ 5.2 and 5.9 belts different? If so what component is a different size to make it require using a different belt?

Dmntxn77 · 03-08-2009, 06:50 PM

The 5.9 is the only one that had an electric fan. So, I doubt that any other non-AC GC or Dodge truck belt will work.

Its not really that hard to get the right size though. Just get a peice of ribbon, route it just like you would your belt, cut to fit, and take that ribbon to the parts store with you. They will have a belt measuring device, and you will likely get it right the first try...

Z88Z · 03-08-2009, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmntxn77

The 5.9 is the only one that had an electric fan. So, I doubt that any other non-AC GC or Dodge truck belt will work....

The Efan shouldn't make a difference. Probably right though, easiest way is measure

Just did some checking. Guess it's not as easy as I thought. Compared Dodge vs Jeep on NAPA and Autozone sites. Evidently Dodge uses different belt #s than Jeep

Shows:
Dodge: Same belt PN for 5.2 or 5.9 w/ AC. Same belt PN for 5.2 or 5.9 w/o AC but even with AC it's not the same as Jeep PN.

Jeep: Same PN for 98 5.2 and 5.9. All w/ AC. No non AC PNs.
Interesting - early ZJ 5.2 belt is different PN than late ZJ 5.2 (still no non AC PN though

)

So anyone know what pulley dia or distances are different between Dodge and Jeep and between early ZJ vs late ZJ?

Saleen4971 · 03-08-2009, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z88Z

So.... it's not as easy as ordering a belt by asking for one from a non-AC Dodge truck?

I thought the Dodge front end setup was the same as ours.

I don't know if I've ever heard of non AC ZJ from the factory, especially later models but I figure finding Dodge trucks without AC is more likely.

Are ZJ 5.2 and 5.9 belts different? If so what component is a different size to make it require using a different belt?

5.2/5.9 belts are the same.

the dodge trucks are not AFAIK. the power steering pump brackets are different.

i want to say that the gates K070893 fit, but im not positive on that.

darknine · 03-09-2009, 05:49 PM

i used the same belt from my 94 as i did on my 98 so throw that out the window about them being different, second check with advance auto i know they have the ac bypass bulley and i think they have an option in the comp for no ac. third if u need just the clutch pm me and ill rip on out of the three a/c compressors i have laying around

Jeepkid · 03-09-2009, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darknine

i used the same belt from my 94 as i did on my 98 so throw that out the window about them being different, second check with advance auto i know they have the ac bypass bulley and i think they have an option in the comp for no ac. third if u need just the clutch pm me and ill rip on out of the three a/c compressors i have laying around

i did pm someone on here before about getting a clutch but never heard anything back.. let me snap a pic of the actual clutch im in need of..

03-03-2009, 10:26 PM	#1
Jeepkid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: University Place, Wa Posts: 2,395 Rep Power: 14	Pull the a/c compressor? I dunno what to do guys.. up here in washington it doesnt get unbearable with the heat.. but it sure is nice to have the cold air.. Anyways My ac compressor clutch went tits up early last year.. and the clutch is like 100 bucks reman.. and a new compressor with clutch is like 300.. I could most likely snag a compressor clutch from a junkyard cheap telling them its a pulley or something i dunno... But the major problem is the damn compressor isnt like any other v8 jeeps ive seen.. i actually spotted a clutch on a minivan and tore it all the way down to find out i didnt have the damn snap ring pliers so i had to abandon the clutch.. Ditch the compressor and all the ac or find the clutch.. I have a buddy at a shop with a ac machine that i can use for free so no big deal with all that etc.. __________________ '98 5.9 ZJ 14.77 1/4 mile ,3in FM 40 series, HF Cat,E-Cut-out, Mx6 shocks,20x8.5 Cobra R's 255/45/20 Yokohamas, 5% limo tint,Addco 1.25" military bar front, Hellwig 7/8th bar rear, Regeared to 4.10's, 13" C6 Corvette Brake Kit with Dual piston caliper, Wj Control Arms, Doug Thorley headers, K&N Intake, boxed rear control arms with prothane bushings, Prothane trans mount, Martin Saines custom trans, Aux trans filter, B&M trans cooler, 242 Case swap, SCT Tuner Via hemifever, JL w6v2 sub, JL speakers, Kenwood amp,8 inch indash dvd '92 XJ, 4.0 HO 5in Rigid Co winch bumper '05 Hemi WK Limited,Nav,Dvd,AEM Brute Force intake(moms)

03-03-2009, 11:06 PM	#2
Ninergrad Administrator Fish Flight Champion! Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Lake Stevens, WA Posts: 4,400 Rep Power: 1000	So you need a new compressor? You know mine hasn't been hooked up for a while, really haven't had much need. Though now that baby Bella is getting bigger I might need to figure something out to fix it, can't be cookin my only kid. __________________ -Davit. 98 ZJ 5.9L Slate Click here for MODS 96 ZJ 4.0L Gold 3.5" lift F>R, 31s", '00 intake manifold, K&N Fipk, 62mm TB, Gibson headers, 2.5" exhaust with dynatech race cat and Magnaflow

03-04-2009, 05:04 AM	#5
GrandHokie98 Black Storm Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 452 Rep Power: 2	I like to move it move it. You like to move it move it. We like to.....MOVE IT!! to stay half on topic, i couldnt live without A/C __________________ '98 ZJ 5.9L Suspension: Stock, 235/75R15 BFG AT's, AR767 rims with 4" BS Engine: Fastman 52mm TB, K&N FIPK Gen 2, Kolak Exhaust, SCT Tuned, M1 Intake DT Ceramic Coated Headers, Kolak Ignition, 242 TC Swap, Relocated AIT, Taurus E-Fan Audio: Rockford Fosgate P8002 and P4004 amps, 2x12" Kicker CVR subs, Kicker SS56.2 components in Q-Logic Kickpods, Front and Rear Punch Components, another set of components in the sound bar, 3600 watts total, AVIC N3 Navigation Unit Lighting: 8300k HID 9004 Hi/Low Headlights, 8000k HID H3 Off-Road Lamps, 8000k HID H3 Fog Lights

03-04-2009, 05:22 AM	#6
Saleen4971 Gerbil Lover Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 4,888 Rep Power: 16	its a bad idea. ask me how i know, lol. removing your A/C doesnt just get rid of your cold air. it ruins your defroster. whenever your defroster is on, the A/C is on to dry out the air. i say dont do it. but if you do, i need one of your A/C lines, lol __________________ Ross, aka fagotron. 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited ML Headers - Thunderbolt Metallic Cat - 3" Mag catback - EBC Brakes w/ drilled Rotors - 4bbl M1 - Vortech 12psi - FUBAR'd trans & "2900" stall - Summit CD Box - Addco & Hellwig Sways - Poly Bushings - H&R Springs - Grabber UHP Tires - Alpine/Infinity Stereo - FX-R BiXenon Retrofit

03-04-2009, 02:26 PM	#9
sloZJ 5.2 owns Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: VA Posts: 1,500 Rep Power: 13	ditch the compressor...get more power. but if u want it u can have mine...im ditchin it. just pay shipping __________________ 93 ZJ 12 seconds worth of mods

03-03-2009, 11:10 PM	#3
Jpmag360 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Davenport, IA Posts: 557 Rep Power: 2	I don't mind the heat, but I hate the humidity...sucks when your thighs are sticking to the leather lol. I'm keeping my air.

03-04-2009, 12:27 PM	#8
Saleen4971 Gerbil Lover Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 4,888 Rep Power: 16	soooooo.........i swear i can read........

03-04-2009, 08:13 PM	#11
sloZJ 5.2 owns Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: VA Posts: 1,500 Rep Power: 13	y not just replace the whole thing

03-08-2009, 10:17 AM	#12
5.2zjkid illiterate sumamabitch Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,281 Rep Power: 13	get smaller belt ac . only people that complain about ac is when ya have girls in the car. i forgt the part number but someone has it .

03-08-2009, 11:53 AM	#13
Saleen4971 Gerbil Lover Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 4,888 Rep Power: 16	i can try to find the length. i had a non-AC belt for a while

03-08-2009, 04:19 PM	#14
Ninergrad Administrator Fish Flight Champion! Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Lake Stevens, WA Posts: 4,400 Rep Power: 1000	Noone knows the part number for non AC belt? isn't it written right on it?

03-08-2009, 04:23 PM	#16
Ninergrad Administrator Fish Flight Champion! Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Lake Stevens, WA Posts: 4,400 Rep Power: 1000	I gotcha, man there were several threads on JU about this, but no answers...

03-08-2009, 04:27 PM	#17
Saleen4971 Gerbil Lover Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 4,888 Rep Power: 16	yep. ill do my best to get the P/N

03-08-2009, 05:47 PM	#18
Glitch Member Asteroids Champion! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wenatchee, WA Posts: 827 Rep Power: 12	You can always do what I do and just go to any parts place and be like...i need a belt a lot shorter than this. and then try the belt out, then bring it right back "nope to small" then you generally have an idea within a few inches of what you need. usually get it done in 2 trips or less. __________________ 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.7l with 2.1L Eaton supercharger,Labonte motorsports stage 2 meth kit, Ross forged pistons, H-beam rods, ARPs, behive valve springs, 50lb injectors, SCT custom tune, 3'' Kolak Exhaust, high flow cat, high flow muffler, modified y-pipe,180* Thermostat, Autometer wideband and NV guages, addco front and rear sway bars, alpines all around.

03-08-2009, 06:02 PM	#19
Jeepkid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: University Place, Wa Posts: 2,395 Rep Power: 14	well you can actually bypass the compressor with just a belt.. if i remember looking at it you can just run with compressor in place.. so go to the store and swap belts with a niner and no clutch fan is like a 20 second job

03-08-2009, 06:36 PM	#20
Z88Z Forum CONDUCTOR Man Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: near Boston Posts: 3,886 Rep Power: 35	So.... it's not as easy as ordering a belt by asking for one from a non-AC Dodge truck? I thought the Dodge front end setup was the same as ours. I don't know if I've ever heard of non AC ZJ from the factory, especially later models but I figure finding Dodge trucks without AC is more likely. Are ZJ 5.2 and 5.9 belts different? If so what component is a different size to make it require using a different belt?

03-08-2009, 06:50 PM	#21
Dmntxn77 Watch This.. Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bushland, TX Posts: 496 Rep Power: 10	The 5.9 is the only one that had an electric fan. So, I doubt that any other non-AC GC or Dodge truck belt will work. Its not really that hard to get the right size though. Just get a peice of ribbon, route it just like you would your belt, cut to fit, and take that ribbon to the parts store with you. They will have a belt measuring device, and you will likely get it right the first try... __________________ Ive got a few Jeeps... Each with a few mods... Post Disclaimer: I dont live on planet Love-A-Lot and I dont sit in circles holding hands singing Kum Ba Ya. If you dont like my opinion just take it with a grain of salt, like I did yours, and simply move on. The sun will still rise, and it will be ok......

03-09-2009, 05:49 PM	#24
darknine aero brick Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: davenport,ia Posts: 1,072 Rep Power: 3	i used the same belt from my 94 as i did on my 98 so throw that out the window about them being different, second check with advance auto i know they have the ac bypass bulley and i think they have an option in the comp for no ac. third if u need just the clutch pm me and ill rip on out of the three a/c compressors i have laying around __________________ a.k.a the aerodynamic brick. dark slate niner gun metal ultrastars, aem intake, edelbrock headers waiting install. 93/94/95 5.2l scrapped slate 5.9l sold platinum 5.9l storage slate 5.9l fire totaled platinum 5.9l loaning out other platinum 5.9l: mike leach headers, mopar ecu, k and n CAI. alpine/ infinity system. pending kennebell install

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