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    Optima

    The time has come. Red or Yellow Top? What is the difference? Thanks fellers!!

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    Red top is a starting only battery, yellow top is a deep cycle.
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    So can you say that one is better than the other? I dont have subs or a compressor or anything really drawing that much power,I dont think..

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    I've got a red top.....that's all I got for ya. If I was gonna run heavy audio I'd go yellow.
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    Ive gone through 3 red tops in less than 2 years. I will not use them ever again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saleen4971 View Post
    Ive gone through 3 red tops in less than 2 years. I will not use them ever again.
    I've heard some stuff about Optima's quality sliding over the last few years. I've never used one though. I've got a Duracell Group 34 marine deep cycle in my Jeep. It's 1.5 years old and doing great so far.
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    Another option is a Diehard Platinum made by Enersys which makes Odyssey. There are also other companies such as Kinetic, Deka, and Braille.

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    I've heard great things about the Odysseys. Any battery made by East Penn (Duracell, Deka and a few others) is generally good too.
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    If you can swing the almost $400 for an odyssey then definitely get that.
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    The Sears (diehard platinum) branded ones are cheaper
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    Yeah but they aint the same as the Odyssey Extreme. Nothing beats the Odyssey Extreme in being badass but ANYTHING beats it in price.
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    for a battery used year around as a DD the red tops seem to last an average of 3 years, i have changed out probly a dozen optima professionally, the date code is about 3 years old on them, that is with proper optima battery testing and full charging before testing with a agm charger

    i have never seen a dead yellow top, they are less popular maybe thats why, i have 2 yellow tops in my jeep, 1 is 5 years old, and 1 is 2 years old

    i would definately not trust a red top more than any normal diehard/interstate/normal battery, i am really liking the yellow tops, i run them because i can get them for under $100, but i wouldnt say they are worth retial $200 price vs a $120 interstate

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    I've had a few red tops. One in my Dakota is like 12-13 years old. I replaced the one in my jeep that was still under warranty (prorated) it did not get done right, sitting long periods of time and what not but still it sucked.
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    From working at Autozone...as sad as it is, I've seen customers come back with bad Optimas more than the store brand. I never recommend them because I've never heard a good thing about them as of late.
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    I've had a few Optima Red Tops and it seems they die within days right after the 5 year Warranty so after giving up on Optima's I went with the Exide Orbital.
    It wasn't cheap & seemed like a very good battery.
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    my red top is 6 years old and still strong

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    I have a red top, about 5 years old and still going.
    No replacement for displacement!

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    My first red top lasted about 8-9yrs was in three different vehicles. The one I have now is about 4yrs old and still working great.
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    red top in my 5.9 that came with it and it's brand new also have a 2006 red top in my dads 99 xj left the lights on for 8 hours and came out side in -5 started like new very good buy

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    Got 2 yrs and 40k out of mine so far and its seen plenty forgotten headlights, stuck break lights music while working and a couple good drains running the jeep on a dead alternator.
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    the old optimas are good. once interstate bought them out, they turned to shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saleen4971 View Post
    Ive gone through 3 red tops in less than 2 years. I will not use them ever again.
    I've gone through 3 yellows in the same amount of time. If they weren't warranteed, I'd have bought a regular lead acid battery.

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    Johnson Controls bought Optima a couple years back. They own the Diehards and quite a few other battery companies. The thing is, they had there factory in Washington state and made 70000 batts a year with less than 1% defective rate. now that the factory is in mexico, theyre making a million batteries a year with the same 1%. now its quantity over quality. I have replaced mine 4 times. each time its right before the 3 year free replacement. basically, ive not had to buy a battery in 6 years.
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    My 5.9 came with a diehard and it seems to be doing great. They didnt pop the dates out so ill never know how old it is.

    Had an optima redtop in my kj for 7 years and it still did great. Jeep was starting to crank slow and i had just got a new job. Was worried i would be late for work so i replaced it with an interstate megateon battery. Its 3 years old now and doing great. Weve got an interstate marine battery in a little boat and its going strong. Date on it is 2006.
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    I plan on getting a yellow top after the holidays

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