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    We just need to figure out a chart of a shock travel. We know what the stock shock travel is for the front and the back. We might even be able to get same IAS, but just lower traveling range.
    I was personally looking at QA1 line, they are insanely expensive, but some of them are dual adjustable and come in a vacationer of length and sizes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NINERGRAD View Post
    I was personally looking at QA1 line, they are insanely expensive, but some of them are dual adjustable and come in a vacationer of length and sizes.

    Yeah, CO shocks are on my long list of to-do's.... Not only will they handle better, but the weight savings has to be huge...
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    I tested some shocks, new OEM, ProComp, Bilstein B6, usw., at least Koni heavy track SPX adjustable, they are my absolute favorit, but a little bit expensive, one for 160€, and you can use them for lower springs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotti View Post
    I tested some shocks, new OEM, ProComp, Bilstein B6, usw., at least Koni heavy track SPX adjustable, they are my absolute favorit, but a little bit expensive, one for 160, and you can use them for lower springs
    Whats the part numbers on those KONIs?
    Do you have them front and rear?
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    Yes for the front 8240-1198SPX and rear 8240-1199SPX, the are good for 250 Km/h
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    Bilstein 5150s up front, I forget the part number...wanna say they are 22.5" extended?

    Rubicon Express twin tubes in the back. Long story.

    The fronts are complete with JKS Upper Mounts and JKS bar pin eliminators. cool stuff, but those upper mounts were not only a PITA to mount but cut my uptravel. I need bumpstops for when I go wheeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotti View Post
    Yes for the front 8240-1198SPX and rear 8240-1199SPX, the are good for 250 Km/h
    Holy crap!!! Here are the prices for the Koni's:

    Retail Price: $424.00
    KONI Online Price: $318.00
    KONI Sale Price: $275.60 per pair

    That's 137.80 per shock!

    Hmmm, maybe I'll change my mind about those.

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    Gotta pay to play.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptowntsi View Post
    I really need to put some research into upgrading the suspension on my ZJ. Even if it involves something as crazy as putting SRT-8 IFS on it. For now, it would be nice to get a sweet set of shocks though that we can run while lowered.
    I looked into that too. Doesn't look all that do-able.

    I found a great pic online that showed the front suspension on a mockup chassis but do ya think I can find it now that I want it - of course not!

    It was the matching pic to this rear axle shot:



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    Bilsteins !! all 4 corners...
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    same here all 4 bilsteins for the win
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    I think the stock, then ias, then bilstens are the shortest. if you are droped id say pick between the 2 ias or bilsten both are nice shocks, unless someone does some work on trying to find a different shock aplication that ends up fitting on the zj thats shorter stick to what has already worked

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    Hi,
    I have the Edelbrock IAS and love them, except when its really cold, they seem to be extremely stiff. I am running them with H&R lowering springs and ALL polyurethane suspension bushings.
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    my IAS's all ahve to be replaced. they didnt like sitting and not moving for 11 months.
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    Performance Alignments

    Hey guys, I thought about making a new thread for this, but thought I would try posting here first.

    What's everyone's opinions on a performance alignment? I just came from the WRX/STi world...and a lot of guys like to run a little bit more negative camber on all wheels than stock. I ran -2.0 all around and it was a huge improvement in handling.

    What do you think? Maybe this isn't a good idea on an SUV? I'm considering trying it out since I need a new alignment anyways.

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    Well first off are you planning to get lowering springs or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninergrad View Post
    Well first off are you planning to get lowering springs or not?
    Yes.

    I'm not sure how the alignment system works on our Jeeps. On my WRX, due to the coilover shock/spring combination setup, getting that extra negative camber requires aftermarket camber bolts. Is this the case with the Jeep as well?

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    Does a track bar help much with handling for us Street Jeep folk? How about a steering stabilizer? I always hear about them for the off-road guys, but wasn't sure if they help on-road as well?

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    There are no track bars available for lowered jeeps. I had mine cut and welded to center the axle. Beefier steering stabilizer will help out a bit...
    Actually Ross(saleen) just got one, he would be a good person to ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninergrad View Post
    There are no track bars available for lowered jeeps. I had mine cut and welded to center the axle. Beefier steering stabilizer will help out a bit...
    Actually Ross(saleen) just got one, he would be a good person to ask.
    Good deal. I'll see if he's subscribed to this thread. If not, I'll track him down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninergrad View Post
    There are no track bars available for lowered jeeps. I had mine cut and welded to center the axle. Beefier steering stabilizer will help out a bit...
    Actually Ross(saleen) just got one, he would be a good person to ask.
    even an adjustable would make up for it? all the way in is stock lenght or longer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sloZJ View Post
    even an adjustable would make up for it? all the way in is stock lenght or longer?
    No I measured it. Called 3 different companies, including going to 2 local off-road shops. Any adjustable track bar, even collapsed, was slightly longer than our stock one... I would prefer to have an adjustable one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninergrad View Post
    No I measured it. Called 3 different companies, including going to 2 local off-road shops. Any adjustable track bar, even collapsed, was slightly longer than our stock one... I would prefer to have an adjustable one.
    Would an adjustable track bar be any good for a stock or lowered ride height Jeep? Or is just a lifted thing?

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    Depends on hold long it is. But answer is no. I have searched for the adjustable track bar that will work on lowered jeep, but answer is cut your track bar and shorten it(cheapest) or buy an adjustable track bar and shorten it(spensive).
    When I had my stock track bar on lowering springs, jeep tend to wonder a bit to the right time to time. Mostly when road was uneven. Yes I did get an alignment, didn't help. I took off the track bar and had it shortened 3/4", then sleeved. Straight as an arrow now and feels much tighter now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninergrad View Post
    Depends on hold long it is. But answer is no. I have searched for the adjustable track bar that will work on lowered jeep, but answer is cut your track bar and shorten it(cheapest) or buy an adjustable track bar and shorten it(spensive).
    When I had my stock track bar on lowering springs, jeep tend to wonder a bit to the right time to time. Mostly when road was uneven. Yes I did get an alignment, didn't help. I took off the track bar and had it shortened 3/4", then sleeved. Straight as an arrow now and feels much tighter now.
    That's awesome. How did you have it shortened? Just cut and re-welded? Also, what does sleeved mean?

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