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    Drag Racing?

    Does anyone race their ZJ in a class? What class would a 408 ZJ fit into? I want to get it ready for racing this coming up season. So I want to find out if I need a roll cage and stuff like that.

    Maple Grove in Mohnton, PA is the closest to me so thats where I would like to race. Unfortunately there isn't much on their website. Where would I go to find out what kind of class the ZJ would fit into?
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    I sent an email so I'll see if I hear back from 'em.
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    if you never heard back from them, for maple grove youd fit into street, pro, or trophy. if youve never raced before, trophy would probably be your best bet, either that or street id stick to for beginning

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    No idea on the class thing, but I believe most of the tech requirements are driven by your E. T.

    I don't think vehicles in the "street" range need much of anything except seat belts (and bring a helmet!) Not sure exactly where it changes - I think it starts around the 12s or so?

    Might be different with different locations, tracks, organizations etc but generally I don't think cages come into play til you're in the 10 - 11 sec ranges. Possibly 12 but I doubt it.

    Not sure about the rear mounted engine kill/fuel shutoffs though. I don't think they're required on "streetish" vehicles but I could be wrong on that.

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    Thanks. I never heard back from them.
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    copied this off of a website. for nhra but most tracks use that as a standard.

    Roll Bar



    The NHRA requires a roll bar in every convertible that is 13.49 seconds or quicker in the quarter mile. For cars that are not convertible, their cut-off time is 11.49 seconds in the quarter mile. There is an exception to this rule. If the vehicle has the stock firewall and floorboard intact, it can run the quarter mile in as little as 10 seconds. The roll bar has to be constructed with 1 3/4-inch mild steel tubing with a wall thickness of 0.118 inch. Or 1 3/4 chrome-moly tubing with a wall thickness of 0.083 can be used.


    Roll Cage



    The roll cage is similar to the roll bar, except there is more protection for the driver. Vehicles that run faster than 10.99 seconds in the quarter mile or have a modified floor and firewall must have a roll cage. Any vehicle, regardless of modifications, must have a roll cage if it hits 135 mph or faster in the quarter mile. It is important to note that roll cages must be certified by an NHRA chassis inspector. Contact the NHRA to find an inspector in your area.





    At the race



    At each race, a safety inspector or tech inspector looks at each vehicle and decides if it is fit to race. The inspectors look not only at roll bars and cages, but for other safety features as well. This includes items like helmets, radiator overflow reservoirs, lug nuts and studs, as well as a host of other equipment. The NHRA has set up the rules so that each safety step is built on the one that comes before it. For instance, if a racer has the roll bar but then moves up in speed brackets, he can add the cage to the existing roll bar structure.
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    here you go on kill switch. i thought it was anything 12.99 and faster.

    A master electrical shut-off switch is required if the car runs either 9.99 or quicker or over 135 mph. The switch should be mounted in the rear of the car and clearly marked for “Off” and “On.”
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    well looks like i will be needing to work on that cage if i am going for anything close to my goal



    A quality SFI-approved safety harness is required on cars running 11.99 or quicker. This is a Deist five-point system. The harnesses are all date-coded and must be re-webbed after two years to be legal.
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    little more on cages. haD pics but i didnt copy them.


    There are a number of different rollbar and rollcage configurations. Photo A shows a six-point rollbar that is required on cars running between 10.00 and 11.99. If the car runs between 9.00 and 9.99, then it needs an eight-point cage, as shown in Photo B. Photo C illustrates a 10-point rollcage with the bars that tie into the front suspension. These front bars aren’t legally required, but this is a typical installation.
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    finally found better description. long read but good


    This is a spectacular time for hot rodders. Never before has it been so easy to go fast. But with quick e.t.’s and high trap speeds comes the responsibility of making sure your car is safe.

    For years, the NHRA has required certain safety equipment on any car running down a dragstrip. These rules are designed to ensure safety not only for the driver but for other competitors and spectators as well.

    Rather than looking at these rules from the standpoint that “NHRA’s making me spend more money,” think of them as recommendations that can perhaps save your life and/or your car from serious damage. A young hot rodder recently complained that his local dragstrip “browbeat” him into wearing a helmet while racing his 12-second street car! He obviously missed the point that wearing a helmet while running his car is only for his benefit. Each of the following brackets requires a certain amount of safety equipment. Each subsequent, quicker bracket adds to these requirements in building-block fashion. Now let’s get into what it takes to pass tech and go fast safely.

    14.99

    To prevent radiator overflow from leaking onto the track, NHRA requires an overflow can of at least one pint in volume. This can be as simple as routing a radiator overflow tube into a windshield washer reservoir.

    All cars should also be equipped with a proper battery hold-down, even when the battery is in the stock location. Factory stock hold-downs are acceptable in this case. Otherwise, bolts of 3/8-inch diameter must be used to retain the battery. Lug nuts are another area of concern, especially with aftermarket wheels. NHRA recommends all cars be equipped with open-ended lug nuts to allow the inspector to verify the length of thread engagement.

    Obviously, all lug nuts and studs must be in place. For slower cars, this isn’t a critical point, especially when using O.E.M. wheels. But with faster cars and aftermarket wheels, the concern is that the lug nut engage the threads of the stud for a distance at least equal to the diameter of the stud. Inquire at your local track as to what the tech inspector will accept.


    Since fire is an ever-present threat, NHRA specifies no more than a total of 12 inches of rubber fuel line in the fuel delivery system. This includes the rubber line between the pickup and an external fuel pump and also between the fuel pump and carburetor. In the case of an accident, rubber line is susceptible to damage that could cause a fire. Investing in either steel hard line or braided-steel fuel line is both wise and far safer than using rubber fuel line. Some type of reverse lockout for aftermarket shifters is also required for all cars.

    13.99

    NHRA requires a DOT, SNELL or SFI helmet for any car quicker than 14.00. There are a number of different specs so you should check with your local tech inspector.

    For cars that run e.t.’s between 12.00 and 13.99, all of the above requirements apply along with the addition of a driveshaft loop. cars running 13.00 and slower when equipped with street tires are exempt . Since traction is the key to going quick, this places more strain on the driveshaft. To prevent the driveshaft from breaking at the front U-joint area and perhaps coming into the interior of the car, or digging into the track and pole-vaulting the car, NHRA mandates that a steel loop be placed just behind the front U-joint of the driveshaft. A universal driveshaft loop is available from Lakewood that bolts to the floorpan. A rollbar is required in this e.t. bracket only if the car is a convertible.

    11.99

    By the time a car is capable of running between 11.00 and 11.99 seconds in the quarter-mile, safety requirements are especially important. Up until this point, factory seatbelts are acceptable, but in the 11-second-and-quicker time zone you need a quality safety harness. The minimum requirement is a 3-inch-wide, five-point harness meeting SFI spec 16.1. The National Hot Rod Association Rulebook outlines the proper way to mount the shoulder harness and belts.


    An NHRA-legal rollbar is also required in the category. Recent rule changes have reconfigured what NHRA classifies as a rollbar. The classic four-point bar is no longer acceptable. The new standard is mild-steel tubing of at least .120-inch wall thickness (most chassis companies, like Art Morrison, use .134-inch wall tubing) that includes a forward-running side bar from the main hoop past the driver’s shoulder. This bar is only required on the driver’s side, but most systems include both sides for a six-point rollbar.

    An SFI-approved scattershield is also necessary in this e.t. category. NHRA requires the scattershield to have an SFI aluminum-foil sticker. According to Red Roberts of McLeod Industries, older bellhousings can be certified by sending the scattershield and block plate to the original manufacturer. The company will inspect the housing and if it passes, it will receive an SFI 6-1 certification. Most SFI certifications are good for five years. Contact your manufacturer if you’re not sure.

    The clutch and flywheel must also be SFI certified. The main consideration in this area is to avoid using a cast-iron flywheel. According to Roberts, sometime in the mid-’70s most of the new car companies began using nodular iron flywheels that are much safer. Most, if not all, current high-performance aluminum and steel flywheels are safe when used in conjunction with an approved scattershield, but the rules state that the pressure plate and flywheel need an SFI certification number. Roberts says the best plan is to record all your SFI numbers in a logbook. This makes it easier for the tech inspector and it shows the inspector that you understand the importance of the inspection process. This e.t. level also requires steel valve stems in all wheels, along with arm restraints for open-cockpit cars like roadsters.

    10.99

    Cars running between 10.00 and 10.99 need all the above-mentioned safety equipment, plus driver’s protective clothing, aftermarket axles and an SFI-approved harmonic balancer. The driver needs to have at least a single-layer, SFI-approved jacket such as those sold by companies like Diest, Simpson, RJR and others, as well as long pants and approved driver’s gloves.


    The aftermarket axle requirement also extends to installing a C-clip eliminator kit in any rearend that uses a C-clip to retain the rear axle, such as the GM 10- and 12-bolts and the Ford 8.8-inch rearends. While the current NHRA axle rule does not include an SFI spec for axles, experienced axle manufacturers such as Summers Brothers, Mark Williams, Strange and others offer axles intended for this kind of abuse.

    Harmonic balancers first became a subject of concern on blown cars that placed enormous loads on the balancer driving the supercharger. Now, any car running quicker than 10.99 needs an SFI-approved harmonic balancer to be legal. Companies like Vibratech, TCI, BHJ and others can supply the necessary legal part.

    A new NHRA safety rule change for 1995 states that cars running between 10.00 and 10.99 must have a rollcage unless the car has an unaltered firewall, floorpan and body (except for wheeltubs). This means if you have a street car with a stock floorpan and firewall but have tubbed it for bigger tires, all you need is a five-point rollbar until the car runs quicker than 10.00. Of course, a rollcage is perfectly acceptable if you wish to install one.

    9.99

    Now we’re into the really quick cars, those running from 9.00 to 9.99 seconds in the quarter. These cars are blazingly fast and capable of speeds approaching 150 mph. Significant improvements must be made to the car in order to step into the 9-second zone. Foremost among these is a rollcage. The cage must be constructed of mild-steel tubing at least 15/8 inch in diameter, with .120-inch wall thickness. It can also be chrome-moly tubing of .083-inch wall thickness with a total of eight attachment points. These eight points refer to the placement of the cage surrounding the driver, including the two rear support bars. NHRA does not require bars that run forward to the front suspension, although many cage designs include them. All cars running 9.99 or quicker must have the cage certified by NHRA and have the NHRA certification sticker attached to the cage.

    Attached to the cage is a window net to keep the driver’s arms inside the car. The driver must also wear a neck collar and fireproof clothing meeting an SFI spec. Additional requirements include an NHRA competition license, an external electrical shutoff and a flexplate/automatic transmission shield. If your car can run over 150 mph in the quarter, as many of these cars do, then NHRA also requires a parachute to help slow the car down. Now that we’ve primed the pump, your best bet is to obtain a NHRA Rulebook and carefully read the E.T. Bracket General Regulations section. The Rulebook specifies exactly what will be required depending upon your car’s e.t. capability. Drag racing with fast street cars is tons of fun. It’s even better when you do it safely.
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    Thanks for posting all of that.
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    shoot no problem. so many people have answered my questions thru the years. i try to answer someones elses when i get the chance and atleast have an idea of what im talking about, not just pullin shit out of left field.
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