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    Gear driven timing gears?

    Has anyone seen a gear driven timing set for the 5.9? I have a thing for the sound they make. I plan on replacing my cam, and will be getting a new timing gear set (probably double roller) but a gear driven set would be awesome!

    Also, any recommendations on a good street cam that won't kill my engine for normal driving?

    So far all I have is a catback exhaust and K&N system. Thinking about porting the kegger or going with a different intake manifold though...

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    get a blower, it makes the same noise but better
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    I thought all Jeeps come with noisey gears drives?

    Oh wait, we call them power steering pumps. OOPS.

    I only had one in Nova I flipped for money. It was noisy as all get out. It was neat at first and I get the concept but unless you are ultra high RPM and isane valve spring pressures I wouldnt mess with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saleen4971 View Post
    get a blower, it makes the same noise but better
    Agreed.

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    If you do end up just going the Chain route,,,, get this Timing Chain Tensioner part P5007709 from Mopar,,, I have this for my build.

    Here is what I am talking about ( i did not get from this place but ordered direct from dealer ) http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/tichte.html
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    hmmm. Don't know if our front end is the same as the LA motors but...

    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MI...n/?prefilter=1

    Probably doesn't work with our Magnums as it lists it good for up to 1991 motors...

    Amazing. Searched through Jegs, Summit and some vendors and didn't find anything else.

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    i woudl jsut go with a billet double roller and tensioner setup
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z88Z View Post
    hmmm. Don't know if our front end is the same as the LA motors but...

    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MI...n/?prefilter=1

    Probably doesn't work with our Magnums as it lists it good for up to 1991 motors...

    Amazing. Searched through Jegs, Summit and some vendors and didn't find anything else.
    Me too, I thought I found one once, but I couldn't find it again. I guess I'll just be going with a double roller. Which is fine, I just liked gear drives.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saleen4971 View Post
    i woudl jsut go with a billet double roller and tensioner setup
    10-4, I think that seems to be the way to go.

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    There are two sets made, Milodon (i've installed bout 4 so far) and another "E-bay" set as I call them, search La mopar small block...bout 150skins IIRC.
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    Is that the set I posted above?

    Then that would mean the LA and Magnum front ends are the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saleen4971 View Post
    i woudl jsut go with a billet double roller and tensioner setup
    Linky???
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    Summit version - http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G6603-B/
    √$30 - p5007709 - Timing Chain Tensioner (Mopar)
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    PS....have fun drilling a hole in the block!
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    To use the gear drive you will need a different timing chain cover. The front of the Magnum and LA blocks are the same. But the timing chain covers are different, because the water pump spins backward on the Magnum compared to the LA. So since the gear drives are listed for the LA engine you will find a timing cover for them. But you probably won't find a timing chain cover that will work with the gear drive for the magnum.
    No replacement for displacement!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGC403 View Post
    To use the gear drive you will need a different timing chain cover. The front of the Magnum and LA blocks are the same. But the timing chain covers are different, because the water pump spins backward on the Magnum compared to the LA. So since the gear drives are listed for the LA engine you will find a timing cover for them. But you probably won't find a timing chain cover that will work with the gear drive for the magnum.
    are you shore???? theres more room in the mag cover?????

    they do fit the magnum motors, I'll have a link for a true pro model showing 318 360 fron 1962 to 2002................
    I don't think the gear drive cares watt direction the water pump spins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DODGE...item4cedf88f0b
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    Quote Originally Posted by RINGWRAITH View Post
    are you shore???? theres more room in the mag cover?????

    they do fit the magnum motors, I'll have a link for a true pro model showing 318 360 fron 1962 to 2002................
    I don't think the gear drive cares watt direction the water pump spins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DODGE...item4cedf88f0b
    I thought the stock covers don't clear the idler gear in the gear setup. I could be wrong, I might be thinking of Mopar big blocks though. I will see if I can find where I saw it.

    But timing chain covers won't swap between magnums and LA motors because of the water pump rotation. They will physically swap but you will have water flow problems.

    LA cover:


    Couldn't find a picture of a Magnum online but this is what the water pump area kind of looks like:
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    No replacement for displacement!

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    I am wrong the stock timing chain cover should work. I was thinking of Mopar Big Blocks.
    No replacement for displacement!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGC403 View Post
    I am wrong the stock timing chain cover should work. I was thinking of Mopar Big Blocks.
    for some reason that makes me sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z88Z View Post
    for some reason that makes me sad
    What makes you sad? That the stock timing cover will work or that I was thinking of big blocks?
    No replacement for displacement!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGC403 View Post
    What makes you sad? That the stock timing cover will work or that I was thinking of big blocks?
    That big blocks need that

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    I think the gear drive for the big block is a better setup. The idler gear is mounted in the timing chain cover. Don't have to drill extra holes in the block like on the small block gear drive setup. They are so expensive though, its hard to justify $600.
    No replacement for displacement!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGC403 View Post
    .... They are so expensive though, its hard to justify $600.
    For a cool extra noise? It's justified!! LOL

    Tween the V2 and the NV3550 on mine - I just need a gear drive to make it a perfect symphony!

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    I got one of these timing chain sets from Pro-Gear (3000 Series).
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    the whine of a gear drive on a motor is more addictive than a cocaine infused cigar on a prom queens sun tanned thighs...................



    Now on to another big secret....the R3 block outfitted with W2-W9 heads and gear drive uses a special Timing chain cover that has gears for driving water pump and dry oil system......bout 3400clams..............but.....??????
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